Leet steals plugins

Plus leet servers spam the server lists and all you see is ip.leet.cc in almost every page of server list. Which can be annoying.

 

Thats free advertising for them

 

LEET didn't remove the BoxOfDevs plugins because the license on the version of the plugin they were using allowed them to commercially sell the plugin, and they never violated any part of the license.
Also, whether you like LEET and its pricing or not really doesn't have much to do with how respectful they are of licenses on plugins. You're all developers, so of course you're not going to like LEET. But think about it from the point of view of someone who has no clue what PocketMine is, what PHP is, what a VPS is, how to host a server, or how code even looks. These people aren't gonna set up a VPS and host a server themselves, they'd rather use LEET. Also, one of the main reasons people use LEET is because people can donate to your server, so in the end you don't have to spend your money.
And yes, of course LEET is in it for the money, but that's the point of any and all businesses. You should stop hating on them and instead appreciate what they've done; that is developing an application that can create servers for you and helping thousands of people get a server.

 

Are you sure that you don't work for Leet? Because it sounds like you definitely might.

 

I don't work for them, and I often openly criticize them on the LEET forums. There are a lot of things I don't like about them, but I don't think it's right to criticize them for just being what they are

 

But tbh just don't use LEET if you don't like them, no need to complain about them if they haven't done anything to harm you directly!

 

You know, it's sadly no longer about sharing things in this community for most people. Most people only care about taking things, whatever they can. I guess Leet is just another one of these examples. I mean, sure, it's quite lame they just take your plugin and give you no credit whatsoever, but if you don't want that, why did you put in a license that allows it and even made it open source at all? There's nobodoy who forced you to do exactly that.

People from Leet aren't thieves. They're simply a couple of the many who mostly take things, without giving back a lot. I don't blame them. You can say what you want, but they're no thieves. They operate legally, and as far as I've seen there's no actual illegal action they've done by putting a plugin for sale.

I'm not a supporter of Leet, instead, I don't like the services of Leet. However, it's best to just leave behind you. There's nothing you can do about Leet putting up your plugins for sale, except for giving it a restrictive license from the start and/or not making it open source at all. Even if Leet did something illegal, I wish you luck fighting in the court. Leet got all the resources they need, you likely don't. Just let it be.

 

Ok, then let me get back on the topic, sorry about that, I got distracted =P
LEET uses other people's plugins just like any PocketMine server uses other people's plugin. However, servers usually make some custom plugins. But guess what? So does LEET! They don't have time to make every single plugin, sometimes they just need to satisfy their users and make money. You're gonna say that they could hire more developers, but all the good developers hate them, so it's pretty hard for them

 

Your arguments suck b@!!$.
And secondly, LEET is not a PocketMine server it's a server hosting provider. So you can't just compare the two as they are equal.

 

Okay I don't think I can end this argument, but I'll give it a shot.

As we all know, leet does steal plugins. However, the plugins have no license saying "You can't steal me", so what they are doing is not illegal at all.
It just irritates us because they are actually making a lot of money with it (and as I said before, legally) and they haven't spent time nor effort on it.

The bad thing after all is people don't learn new stuff. To be honest, I had no idea what a VPS, PocketMine, PHP is before googling "how to make a minecraft pe server for free". Guess what the first thing to pop up was. LEET! The first 7 days is free so that closes all the ways to learn PocketMine and PHP.

No one is bothered to search another way to do it. Making a server is paid and there's no way to do it without leet. That's what kids think.

As I mentioned before, my friend who spent over $150 on leet, is just 12.

To summarize,
Leet is making money legally, but they don't deserve it. We can't stop them.

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Sorry for that! But I think you get what I'm trying to say.

 

Ex-lead developer at LEET here, I quit around a year ago as I had it with how poorly organized it is but that's not why I'm posting here.

For a while I was recreating popular plugins to avoid legal troubles, but as time went by my tasks turned into fixing other people's (often crappy) plugins in a super gray zone and sometimes downright illegal way. I'm not entirely sure how the situation is right now, but I honestly doubt it has improved since I left. Some plugins were definitely added that did not have a license attached to them which would default to copyrighted.

To play devil's advocate, LEET is not in the wrong in terms of the "BoxOfDevs" thing, they had licensed their plugin using a open source license which did not prohibit monetization and as a result LEET did so and when they found out they changed their license. LEET has since not updated those plugins and as far as I know are maintaining forks on their end of the previously licensed version.

The best thing you can do if you are 100% certain they are using your plugin (that is NOT licensed using a license that allows commercial use) is to send a DMCA as LEET is US based.

 

You could try to argue this, but it wouldn't hold up in court. At the end of the day your server has the exact same resources assigned to it no matter what plugins you have purchased access to. It's literally a flag in the database that gets flipped and boom next restart you have an additional phar.

Besides unless your license allows it, commercial use is not allowed without an agreement.

I'm not sure how familiar you are with leet but plugins are directly put behind paywalls and you purchase each separately. If you simply paid for a server that came with a list of plugins (licenses still matter though) that you could freely install the legal issues would mostly go away.